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Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby JetAir » 06 Aug 2019, 14:04

Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Hello to all members and respect to the developers of this brilliant product!

I'm doing my first steps with RPI+DIGI equipment and RuneAudio is my first Linux- based media soft in my life. So excurse me if question is stupid. Searched forum but didn’t found answer(. So asking here.

setup: RPI3 B+ and HiFiberry Digi+ Pro. Connected to Burson 160D via coax. Network: home WiFi and Synology 414 NAS.

Bought and configured Pi+DIGI several days ago. Easy even for amateur like me.
Nevertheless, faces the issue with listening the music from my NAS device.
(Connection via login/password. No issues. Access to Music/ folder granted)

QUESTION:
After 1st time connection it showed NAS and empty music folder. I've pressed to update MPD library. This looks ligical.

issue:
Now I realized that when I turn Rune OFF/ON, folder is again empty. I'm doing build/update (it takes quite a lot of time (approx. 15mins for ~200GB) to make all folders and sub-folders visible). As soon as I turn off .... I need again to update and wait.

NAS is always working. Not in sleeping mode.


I'm 100% sure that it could be fixed somehow. Please advise how can I avoid every day update of library to have all albums visible. and what are the steps when I'll add more music to my NAS? Again re-update even if I've added 1 album?)


thxs!
Sources:
- LP: ProJect-1 Anniversary + phono Cambridge Audio 651P
- CD: Philips CD104
- Digital: Hifiberry DIGI+ PRO & NAS Synology DS414
- FM: Sony 3ES
DAC/Pre.Amp: Burson Audio 160D
Power Amp: QUAD 405-2
Acoustics: Celestion SL6 Signature
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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby AndyF » 06 Aug 2019, 19:07

Hello JetAir,

some questions to get some infos about your setup:
- what Image did you flash to your MicroSD-Card? 0.5b? 0.5b with UIe pre-installed?
- how did you add your NAS as source - SMB/NFS?
- how do you switch off your RPi? Via menu?
- do you use StandardUI or UIenhanced (which is IMHO much better)?

The second question is easy to answer: You can update sub-folders via context-menu at library. Or you can update whole library at source-menu - it´s much faster after inital building.

Give 0.5b with pre-installed UIe a chance - Perhaps your first problem is gone after that.


regards, Andy
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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby janui » 06 Aug 2019, 20:23

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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby JetAir » 06 Aug 2019, 21:35

Dear Andy, many thanks for your reply and suggestions!!
My answers below are marked by color:

- what Image did you flash to your MicroSD-Card? 0.5b? 0.5b with UIe pre-installed?
> looks like I use "nude" version downloaded by the following link: runeaudio-0-5-beta-for-all-raspberry-pi-models-t6532.html
> I used version for 3B+ models. Answering your question about pre-installed ... honestly saying this was my first experience with ARM machines and I pray they it works and a bit afraid that changing the version will solve one problem, but add 1-2 new ones)

- how did you add your NAS as source - SMB/NFS?
> I use SMB/CIFS option. And SMB is allowed in NAS. As I shared in the very beginning, access itself was not a problem (I knew that Synology will let connect only via real user name/pass if "guest" is disabled.)

- how do you switch off your RPi? Via menu?
> YES. Definitely only via menu in my browser. After that I have only red diode working. Green light is not blinking/OFF .

- do you use StandardUI or UIenhanced (which is IMHO much better)?
> Std version. and proceed with the settings based on the forum and manuals.

The second question is easy to answer: You can update sub-folders via context-menu at library. Or you can update whole library at source-menu - it´s much faster after inital building.
> Here now is clear. But most critical is that after stop/start Library and Queue are empty again.


Give 0.5b with pre-installed UIe a chance - Perhaps your first problem is gone after that.
rune0-5-runeuie-pre-installed-t6847.html
> if I'll fail with MPD library > will try. But looks like current version fully match my demands as I need a pure and clean NAS>DAC transport with few settings and easy to drive interface. More over - looks like most users don't face such trouble.



thxs!!!!
Andrei
Sources:
- LP: ProJect-1 Anniversary + phono Cambridge Audio 651P
- CD: Philips CD104
- Digital: Hifiberry DIGI+ PRO & NAS Synology DS414
- FM: Sony 3ES
DAC/Pre.Amp: Burson Audio 160D
Power Amp: QUAD 405-2
Acoustics: Celestion SL6 Signature
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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby JetAir » 07 Aug 2019, 09:30

Sources:
- LP: ProJect-1 Anniversary + phono Cambridge Audio 651P
- CD: Philips CD104
- Digital: Hifiberry DIGI+ PRO & NAS Synology DS414
- FM: Sony 3ES
DAC/Pre.Amp: Burson Audio 160D
Power Amp: QUAD 405-2
Acoustics: Celestion SL6 Signature
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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby janui » 07 Aug 2019, 12:25

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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby JetAir » 07 Aug 2019, 21:42

Hello!

my first SSH connection happened)

let me share my actions step-by-step:
- Turn-on of Rune
- Check#1: Network mount > active. With green tick
- Check#2 of Library: Shows 1 network mounts ; EMPTY/No folders with music
- Action: Sources > Update MPD library
…… 15-30 mins was required to update and all music albums become visible. (it really should take so long?!)
- Check: 1 Mount + All folder visible

- Connected via SSH with commands (via PuTTY):
- Systemctl kill mpd >>> Music disappeared
- Systemctl start mpd >>> Music visible

- Reboot > and after F5 in browser …. 1 Network mount shown. Empty folder, no music.

After that I performed many other combinations, but the only what I see > after reboot/ turn off-on I can’t see the library.
and the only option to see it - execute Update/Rebuild library (by the way what is the difference?).

This is all what I know for now ((((((

and the question is why so many people easily connect, and I have issue where (potentially) shouldn't be an issue!)))))

any additional suggestions are more than welcome.

Andrei
Sources:
- LP: ProJect-1 Anniversary + phono Cambridge Audio 651P
- CD: Philips CD104
- Digital: Hifiberry DIGI+ PRO & NAS Synology DS414
- FM: Sony 3ES
DAC/Pre.Amp: Burson Audio 160D
Power Amp: QUAD 405-2
Acoustics: Celestion SL6 Signature
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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby englishtim » 07 Aug 2019, 22:37

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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby janui » 08 Aug 2019, 11:13

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Re: Synology NAS > how not to re-build library every day

Postby JetAir » 08 Aug 2019, 23:16

Hello!!!

many thanks for advises. now checking. will be back with detailed answers.

Andrei
Sources:
- LP: ProJect-1 Anniversary + phono Cambridge Audio 651P
- CD: Philips CD104
- Digital: Hifiberry DIGI+ PRO & NAS Synology DS414
- FM: Sony 3ES
DAC/Pre.Amp: Burson Audio 160D
Power Amp: QUAD 405-2
Acoustics: Celestion SL6 Signature
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